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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 18 Mar 93       Volume 11 : Issue 61

Today's Topics:

      [*] Giger Landscape XII Screen
      [*] Hard Drive Stiction problems: a follow-up
      [*] ircle 1.2.6
      [*] ircle 1.2.6 source
      [*] mac-solutions.hqx
      [*] Pyro! 4.0 module - Puzzle
      "xxx.hqx.Z" format
      "xxx.hqx.Z" format (A) (Re: Info-Mac Digest V11 #60)
      "xxx.Z" format
      Apple 13" RGB going brighter
      Attaching a Sun CD-ROM drive to a Powerbook
      Bb notes sticks in MIDI. . .
      bragging?
      Building a little network (
      ClarisWorks and AppleWorks
      Close-View Won't Stop
      Cyrillic word processing?
      DAT Drive Problems
      Dead ProCom removable drive & LCD panel connection (Q)
      DECnet -> Appletalk v58 known bug (FYI & Question)
      disk formatting programs for Acropolis 1.2 GB disk
      Don't know what did it but it works
      Endnote Plus (2 msgs)
      EPS -> PICT Shareware?
      Extensions, Extensions Everywhere
      Farewell to Vaporware
      Filesharing and Autodoubler
      Filesharing and Trash
      HyperCard Developers' List
      hypercard developers list
      II vx >> Centris 650 (A)
      Is this how you get a question into the info-mac digest?
      Japanese Word Processor???
      K&R C book
      Looking for NCSA/BYU Telnet Sources for THINK C
      Macintosh in Taiwan?
      MacTCP no Local/Ether Talk Icon, Can't fix it
      Mactivity Conference Agenda
      MacWeek
      MacWhiteHouse?
      MacWrite Pro IS SHIPPING NOW!!!
      Mail for Mac 1.1b Warning!
      modem use in japan
      NuBus card for E-Machines Z-21 screen needed
      Nutek Clones (C)
      NuTek Has Macintosh Clone Ready: Opinions?
      NuTek Has Macintosh Clone Ready: Opinions? (A)
      PB 165c vs. PB 180 display (C)
      PostScript -> EPSF (A)
      Reinstalling Network device driver
      Shareware/freeware fonts
      Shiftlock/mouse button problem clue (A?)
      status of System 7 compatible driver for Apple 8.24 video card
      Stylewriter II driver - where to get it
      Stylewriter II install problems 6.0.8
      SuperATM Offer
      SuperBoomerang 4.01p bootup problem (Q)
      SuperDrive Problem
      Tape backup system 4mm
      text format for e-mail (Q)
      Translation software for the Mac
      vi
      Word 5.0 -- Text With Layout Won't Accept PointSize Setting
      World Scripts - WHEN?!?!?!?
      Xferit and Steven Falkenburg

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 13:56:03 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: [*] Giger Landscape XII Screen

Landscape XII
by H.R. Giger
Work No. 205
Painted in 1974
Acrylic on Paper
40" x 28"

The accompanying PICT file is a 640x480 16-bit color scan of the above named
work, suitable for using as a background screen on a 13" or 14" monitor.  The
screen looks fantubulous when you set your screen depth to 16 bits, but it
looks fine in 8-bit color or 8-bit greyscale.

At the request of the moderator, I'll be limiting my posts of these Giger
screens to one per week.  Since 640x480 is the most common color monitor
size out there, I'll be uploading those first.  If you've got a 16" or
19" monitor and can't wait 'till I get around to posting these versions
(if I ever do) drop me a note in e-mail, and we'll see about sending you them
on disk.

Ken Kirksey
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/art/giger-landscape-xii-startup.hqx; 344K]

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 14:56 CST
From: [e-mail] (Greg Trimper)
Subject: [*] Hard Drive Stiction problems: a follow-up

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>not known. I thought the Quantum problem was more widely known, but
>strangely, nobody has (yet) confirmed it in response to my query last week.

The Quantum problem occured much earlier, and was fixed with new EPROMS
>From Apple put into the drives.  I think that the affected drives were
much less widespread than the Sony's.

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 20:43:00 MET
From: Olaf Titz <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ircle 1.2.6

This is a Macintosh IRC (Internet Relay Chat) client.
It allows you to talk to people all over the world over the Internet.

It will run on any Mac with System version 6.0 or greater and the
MacTCP driver, version 1.0 or greater.

This is free software according to the GNU General Public License
(any version). Refer to the file COPYING for precise terms and conditions.

Send comments, suggestions, bug reports etc. to:
Olaf Titz  <[e-mail]>

Source uploaded separately.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/ircle-126.hqx; 101K]

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 20:44:03 MET
From: Olaf Titz <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ircle 1.2.6 source

This is a Macintosh IRC (Internet Relay Chat) client.
It allows you to talk to people all over the world over the Internet.

It will run on any Mac with System version 6.0 or greater and the
MacTCP driver, version 1.0 or greater.

This is free software according to the GNU General Public License
(any version). Refer to the file COPYING for precise terms and conditions.

This package contains complete source code and auxiliary files for
building the binary with THINK Pascal 2.0.1 or later versions.
Portions are Copyright 1992 Peter N.Lewis, read the notices in the
TCP Libraries files.

Send comments, suggestions, bug reports etc. to:
Olaf Titz  <[e-mail]>

[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/ircle-126.hqx; 135K]

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Date: 16 Mar 1993 13:10:26 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (eric shelden (wadsworth))
Subject: [*] mac-solutions.hqx

Mac-Solutions is a calculator-like program which performs
conversions and calculations commonly used for solution
chemistry such as dilutions, concentrations and so-on.
The program understands and will convert between
concentrations expressed in molarity,weight percent and
weight/volume. Two fully editable libraries for solution
concentrations and formula weigths are included, and results
can be copied to the clipboard. The program runs on both color
and B&W machines (it's nicer in color) using sytems 6.0 and later.
Must be unstuffed with Stuffit Deluxe. Shareware $15 requested.
Eric Shelden ([e-mail]).

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-solutions.hqx; 80K]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 14:40:30 PST
From: William Gibson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Pyro! 4.0 module - Puzzle

This file contains a Pyro! module similar to the AfterDark module Puzzle.
It uses the screen image as the picture and slides little push pieces
around.  Several configuration options are available.  This module should
This file contains a Pyro! module similar to the AfterDark module Puzzle.
It uses the screen image as the picture and slides little push pieces
around.  Several configuration options are available.  This module should
work with all Macs that can runb Pyro!4.0 and 4.0.1.  See the readme file
for more information.

Bill Gibson
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/pyro-puzzle.hqx.hqx; 6K]

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Date: Thu, 18 MAR 93 10:55:28 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: "xxx.hqx.Z" format

In Info-Mac digest no. 60, Guy Louis asked how to deal with files on
a UMich (and also Info-Mac!) mirror site at Imperial College in London.
These files are distinguished by an extra ".Z" at the end of their name.

Some time ago I had the same problem. The answer is to download from the
site in question a utility called MacCompress, in the "mac" directory.
This deals with ".Z" files (and it's drag-and-drop in system 7).
I am not sure why they do this, since the files are already compressed
which makes the space saving minimal. And it is slightly annoying that
after using MacCompress you still have to do the usual decompression
using, for example, the Stuffit Expander.

However, this site is very useful for having so much in one place, and
it's a lot easier for Europeans to get into during its working day. File
transfer is a lot faster too, at least in the UK.

Eric Eisenhandler, Physics Dept., Queen Mary & Westfield College,
University of London       [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 09:11:20 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Simon Brock)
Subject: "xxx.hqx.Z" format (A) (Re: Info-Mac Digest V11 #60)

In article <[e-mail]>, you write:
>
>From: [e-mail] (Guy LOUIS)
>Subject: "xxx.hqx.Z" format (Q)

>I try to FTP on a European mirror of UMICH: src.doc.ic.ac.uk
>All works fine except that some files are in a ".Z" format.
>I know how to transfer and translate XX.cpt.hqx or YY.sit.hqx
>but what about XX.cpt.hqx.Z or YY.sit.hqx.Z?
>
These files are compressed using the Unix compress utility.  They can be
uncompressed using uncompress or zcat.  There is a Mac version (MacCompress
4.5) but I have found this unreliable in the past.

An alternative that works at src.doc.ic.ac.uk is to ask for the file
"xxx.hqx" rather than "xxx.hqx.Z".  The FTP daemon on this machine will
then automatically uncompress it for you before sending it.  Note however
that you will be transfering roughly twice as much data then the compressed
file.

Simon.
 ----------
Simon Brock,
Dept. of Mathematical and Computational Sciences,
University of St.Andrews,                  E-mail: [e-mail]
St. Andrews,                               Tel:    [phone] x8138
Fife KY16 9SS.                             Fax:    [phone]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:43:11 +0000
From: Matthew Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: "xxx.Z" format

Guy,

There are several ways of solving your problems. The <file>.Z format is a
unix compression format.

1. Decompress with the program MacCompress, available from Sumex as
/info-mac/util/maccompress-32.hqx

2. Get the mirror at src.doc.ic.ac.uk to do the decompression for you.

    a) If you issue a 'get <file>' when ftp'ing, then the file will be
    decompressed before being downloaded.

    b) Furthermore if after logging in as anonymous, you enter a password
    commencing with a '+' such as '[e-mail]' then the 'ls'
    command will list files without the '.Z' extension. So from Fetch
    for example you will never even see this extension never mind have to
    deal with it.

Hope this solves all your problems.

Matthew Johnson
Imperial College, London.

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Date: 18 Mar 1993 9:54:16 +0100
From: Frode Lundemo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple 13" RGB going brighter

My Apple 13" RGB monitor has over the past few months gone brighter and
brighter and the colors are becoming less and less saturated. Has anyone out
there encountered a similar problem? Does anyone happen to know what this
problem may be due to?

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 01:17:39 PST
From: [e-mail] (Allan M Schiffman)
Subject: Attaching a Sun CD-ROM drive to a Powerbook

I have a Sun CD-ROM drive (which uses a Sony mechanism) that I'd like
to connect to my Mac temporarily.  I've got all the appropriate
hardware (SCSI cables, etc), but what software do I need?  Is there
anything cheap or in the public domain I can get?  I downloaded a
bunch of stuff from ftp.apple.com which purported to be drivers and
utilities for the Apple "CD300", and although it looked very plausible
(complete with ISO9600 drivers, install script, etc.), it certainly
didn't work.  I once heard that Sun CD-ROM drives are somhow
non-standard, but I hope that was just a vicious rumor.

On the off-chance that it matters, my machine is a Powerbook 140 --
and I'm daisy-chaining the CD-ROM drive off an Asante EN/SC SCSI
Ethernet adapter.

All I really want to do is read my free fonts from the Type-On-Call
disc included with my copy of Adobe Super ATM...

Please reply directly to me, I'm not on the list.

Thanks,
-Allan

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 17:52:19 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (W.K. Fry)
Subject: Bb notes sticks in MIDI. . .

There is the distinct chance that I'm losing my mind, but I just
purchased a new MIDI keyboard and have hooked it up to my Mac IIsi
with a homemade MIDI interface.

I first noticed that when I played songs back, notes would stick on.  On
further investigation, I discovered that only Bb notes in any octave
would stick.  And then finally with investigation, I found out the
actual problem was that my Bb's would randomly jump down an octave and
therefore the program could not shut the note off.  All of these
problems are NOT repeatable!  It seems to happen purely at random, about
30% of the time!

Okay, I first thought it might be the program, but it turns out that two
piece of software both did it.  Then I thought it might be the keyboard
or interface. . . I plugged them into an Apple ][gs and played many
songs, and the problem never occurred once.

Am I losing my mind?  I'm not using the Apple MIDI Manager, I sending
directly to the port, and I've booted with absolutely no INITs.  Has
ANYONE ever had this problem, or will I be doomed for life to listen to
all my songs over the hopeless drone of Bb's.

                        William K. Fry

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 07:50:19 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (Matthew T. Schomer)
Subject: bragging?

To Dan Garcia ([e-mail]) who wrote:

Can anyone beat my record of 45 Extensions and Control Panels?

I write:

Why would anyone want to beat that? It sounds to me like you have
a computer that is going to blow from keeping all those damn extensions
and control panels in your sys.folder.

Sorry, but to me, that is hardly something to brag about. I feel that
running a neat, clean computer is always the safest.

see you in tech support,

schomer

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Date: 18 Mar 1993 10:38:24 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Building a little network (

     Building a little network (A)
SnoMan <[e-mail]> asks:

>Need some input.  I want to create an Appletalk network between my 2
>PeeCees,
my Mac Plus, and my Appletalk/serial HP DeskWriter.
>
>Once upon a time I heard about a board you could put in your PC that would
>make it a node on an Appletalk n.  How does this work?  I want to do thisis
>REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CHEA.  I don't want to buy NetWare or Vines or
>anything like that.  The idea is to do something to the PeeCees (stick a
>board in it, load some software) so that they become just like a Mac (just
>as
far as networking).  By this I mean, plug in the cables, turn on file
>sharing,
and you've got yourself a peer-to-peer network with a shared print. >:-)
>
>So, what do ya say?  I know there's a bunch of you out there who have
>slapped
DOS boxes and Macs together before.  Can you help me?

I did it a couple of years ago.  I purchased 2 LT2000MC (microchannel)
LocalTalk boards for two PeeEss/2s (a Model 50 and a Model 60) from Daystar
Digital for about $300 each (this was two years ago, so prices might have
dropped since then).  Daystar also makes non-microchannel boards for
conventional PeeCees, ExxTees, and AyyTees.  Even though the boards came
with its own software to connect to the network and use servers and printers,
I
opted for AppleTalk PC, a software package that puts a "Chooser-like"
interface
on connecting to network devices.  At the time I bought it, it
was being marketed by Apple.  But Farallon bought the rights to it and are now
marketing it as (I think) PhoneNet PC.

We use it a lot to transfer files between our PeeEss/2 and our Macintosh
network.  We do a lot of cross-platform FoxPro/Base programming and we can
share our files this way a lot easier than "sneakernetting" with Apple File
Exchange.

Hope this helps!

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 8:52:10 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: ClarisWorks and AppleWorks

      ClarisWorks and AppleWorks
   Problem: Claris translator for AppleWorks WP saves files with the type
BINA which cannot be recognized by either AppleWorks itself or a Claris
Appleworks translator as appleworks files.
   Replies: I had few replies to my message asking for help the other day,
but have hacked what I think is a solution.  It has been tested by a couple
of people and appears to work.
   Solution:
1. Make a copy of the Appleworks translator in  System Folder:Claris:Claris
Translators.  Call it, say "AppleworksPDOS"
2. With ResEdit, open the FTYP number 280 (This resource has the type and
name of files to write.)
3. on line hex 58 change 31 41 20 20 to 70 1a ee 7b
4. If you wish to use the old translator as well as this one, add the string
" ProDOS" to the ASCII part at the end of the resource, and change the
length of the string at byte 5e to 15.
5. save the changes
6. Trash the file XTND translators list in System Folder:Preferences
7. restart ClarisWorks (or NISUS, or whatever is using the translators)
8. Save As using the AppleworksProDOS translator.  It will have the correct
file type for Appleworks to read directly without AFE translation.  This
means it can be saved to a ProDOS disk that has been mounted with the Apple
extension ProDOS File System and Appleworks can read it.

Apple has suggested to me that a bad install of the ][ software might be the
cause of the ][ card not working.  I will try reinstalling.
Rick

 Rick Sutcliffe-Trinity Western University Langley B.C. [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:20:07 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Joshua Yeidel)
Subject: Close-View Won't Stop

Is there any way to get Close-View to ignore the invoking keyboard
shortcut (Cmd-Opt-O)?  It's the same as MS Word's shortcut for
Outline view.  Right now I have CLose-View excluded from loading
by Extension Manager, but that's rather drastic.

thanks.

-- Joshua

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:10:31 EST
From: dom manno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cyrillic word processing?

A friend would like to publish a newspaper in both Russian and English.  He
thus needs a word processing program that would handle Cyrillic.  Is it just
a matter of obtaining a Cyrillic font?  (If so, where can they be found?)
Does he need an add-on to an existing word processing program like MSWord or
MacWrite?  Or does he need something entirely different?
Also, does he need System 7.1 with WorldScript?

Any assistance would be gratefully appreciated.

Dom Manno
Journalism Graphics Lab, Temple University  <[e-mail]>

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Date: 18 Mar 93 09:14:00 EST
From: "GINBOX::"Doug_Wilson-2141_EMail""
<"Doug_Wilson-2141_EMail"[e-mail]>
Subject: DAT Drive Problems

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date:    Thu, Mar 18, 1993 @ 9:03:26 AM
Re:      DAT Drive Problems
I assume you mean you are running Retrospect and NOT Retrospect Remote. You
must run the application on the host machine (the one with the drive attached,
usually). I use a PLI drive and Retrospect without any problems (well, except
corrupted archives IF the Mac dies in the middle of a backup).
SCSI termination is an art rather than a science (or should I say nightmare
and
not a dream). Try other, less correct, arrangements. You may have a faulty
cable. If you have access to another SCSI cable, try it.
If the SCSI scanning CPs don't see the drive, then Retrospect won't either.
You didn't say which Mac you are using. You may need to install the SCSI tape
INIT that comes w/Retrospect in order to make it work.
Feel free to contact me with more details and I'll try to help.
Doug Wilson
[phone]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 17:58:44 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Dead ProCom removable drive & LCD panel connection (Q)

Hi all!

The ProCom 44 MB removable harddisk in our lab. has given up on us for the
second time in a year. SCSI-probe identifies a bad terminator, like the
first time. When I remove the drive, the SCSI-chain is okay. We sent it for
repairs once and they exchanged the logic board. Does anybody have any idea
how this could happen again in such a short time span?

I've tried to connect a SHARP (QA50) overhead LCD panel to my Mac LC to
make presentations more dynamic, and failed. Has anyone tried it before?

Thanks,

Andre'.

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Date: 18 Mar 1993 12:19:44 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: DECnet -> Appletalk v58 known bug (FYI & Question)

I sifted through a few months worth of the MACNET-L.LOG files
to see whether this topic had been resolved or not, but couldn't
find that it had.  Here's what I learned from DEC today:

For Macs with on-board ethernet, Appletalk v58 and DECnet DO NOT
work together.  It was hinted that using a redundant NuBus ethernet
card did work, but I haven't had a chance to verify that.  The
_official_ work-around is to revert to Appletalk v57 or v56 (see
question below).  I can verify that NCP and NetCopy do not work, CTERM
and DECnet tool connections do not work, and MailforMacintosh works
only with the Appletalk-DECnet tool.

The DEC and Apple engineers have apparently discussed the problem,
and a fix should come from the Apple side at some point.  No release
timetable was given.  I was told to watch Applelink for the
release.

My question/problem is, can someone point me to the Appletalk v57
installer?  I've checked Applelink, a Developer CD, and ftp.apple.com,
but can't find it anywhere.  Although I have workarounds for my
Q950 for the time being, I need to downgrade some time.  Anyone
out there have any leads?  Anyone know an Apple person who could
put v57 on Applelink or ftp.apple.com?

THanks for the help.

- Dave Peltier
  Lawrence University
  Computer Services
  [e-mail]

PS - I've really grown to like DEC's tech support line.  The people
are very friendly, honest, etc., and are open to feedback good or
bad.  And no, I don't work for them!

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 17:01:06 EST
From: Marie Rodriguez <[e-mail]>
Subject: disk formatting programs for Acropolis 1.2 GB disk

First, thanks to everyone who responded to my question about a driver
for our sun cd rom. I will post a summary as soon as I get it all
organized and will email all the people who asked me to pass the
information on to them. One person had a pretty bad experience with
the company and I will pass on that too for those interested --
forewarned is forearmed.

The question of the day is...does anyone know what disk formatting
programs will work to format our 1.2 GB Acropolis drive? It was
originally purchased for an RS 6000 and it appears that to get
reasonable sized sectors, we will need to partition the disk. Useful
comments welcome.

Once again, I do not get info-mac so please respond via email. THank
you very much in advance,

    ...marie rodriguez
       [e-mail]

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Date: 18 Mar 93 17:10:57 U
From: Evans-CIC-IS <[e-mail]>
Subject: Don't know what did it but it works

I know the subject/title sounds a little wierd, but thats all I could think
of.
 If this was announced before and I missed it...SORRY!  I think all of the
people reading any of these four groups (mac-l, info-appletalk, MacPwrbook-L,
and Info-Mac) would benefit from this message.  'nuff jabbering...

 What I have noticed, is this.  I have a LC at home with a stylewriter
 printer.
 I use a modem/ARA to connect to my office Mac.  In the past, whenever I had
 an
ARA connection established and wanted to print something, it was a no go.  I
complained about this alot.  The stylewriter would only work with appletalk
in-active.  I would have to save the remote file onto my home Mac, drop the
ARA
connection, enter chooser, turn appletalk in-active, and then print.  Then,
next time I wanted to dial-in, I would have to enter the chooser, make
appletalk active, reboot, and then dial-in.  What a Pain!!
 Yesterday, I had an ARA connection established, and accidentally went from
file to print.  I almost fell out of my chair when the printer started up.
What happen?
  Well, I do not think it was the sys7.1 upgrade.  It might be the appletalk
58.0 upgrade, or was it the sys7.1 hardware upgrade.  I know that about covers
all of the poosible system type upgrades, but nothing else was added to the LC
lately.   I did read all the Apple announcements on these upgrades before i
added them to the LC and did not see any announcement about the
appletalk/stylewriter enhancement.

If you know which one it was, please let me know.
If you had a problem like what I had before now, look for an answer here.  If
the answer is not cross posted like my message is, I would be glad to send ti
back to the other lists.

Troy
--
Troy D. Evans                   [e-mail]
Micom Macintosh/PC/UNIX Users Assistance Group  Redstone Arsenal AL

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Date: 18 Mar 1993 11:47:23 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Endnote Plus

Would anyone have a copy of the Endnote Plus demo they could post to the
archives?  I have been digging though my demo disks to find mine, but I
must have passed it on.  I'd like to pass it on again.

Thanks!

-Dwight

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Date: 18 Mar 1993 20:16:13 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: EndNote Plus

I found the demo I was looking for, so I posted it to the archives.

-Dwight

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:13:00 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Miles Abernathy)
Subject: EPS -> PICT Shareware?

Any suggestions? Thank you.
     Miles Abernathy, [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 08:25:28 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Extensions, Extensions Everywhere

In Info-Mac Digest V11/#60 Dan asks (innocently enough):

>p.s. Can anyone beat my record of 45 Extensions and
>     Control Panels?

Hmm. Norton tells me I've got 58. Knock off a few for backstage stuff like
Ethernet and printer drivers, but I'm still in the 50s.

Cheers
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:57:04 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Christopher Lishka)
Subject: Farewell to Vaporware

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

    >The last Vaporware column comes out next month. I just want
    >to say a big Thank- You to Murph Sewall for his fine work in
    >bringing us all the latest with such diligence for all these
    >years, and I'm sure I'm joined by many other readers.

    >Thanks Murph! And bon voyage in your future ventures.

Yes, let me add my voice to this.  Murph Sewall, I thank you!  The
VaporWare column was literally *the* most interesting magazine every
month, and I looked forward to reading every issue.  I wish you well,
Murph Sewall, and thanks for all the great rumours.

--
                               Christopher Lishka
 Never drive a car when you're dead...                     PPE Division, CERN
                -- Tom Waits
                [e-mail]
                                 vxaluw::lishka

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 08:17:48 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Filesharing and Autodoubler

I was sharing my hard disk the other day and working on my hard disk from
someone elses Mac.  Everything was hunky dory for the first few minutes, I
was able to access, copy, etc.  And then everything stalled.  When I went
to check my computer it was stalled as well and the AD for autodoubler was
prominenet (I have a 3 min delay).  This may (or may not) be related to the
trash stalling that happened (coming soon to an info-mac near you).

Has anyone had filesharing-autodoubler problems?

Thanks..........Michael Silverstein, Materials Engineering, Technion

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 07:45:43 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Filesharing and Trash

I would like to echo the comments from someone who had their trash stall
while using filesharing.  I must admit I rarely use filesharing, but I had
my hard disk shared when I tried to empty the trash directly after turning
sharing on.  It was good luck that on the same day I read the note
regarding filesharing/trash so that I did not spend hours looking for ex/cp
conflicts.

Anyone know why this happens?

Thanks, Michael Silverstein, Materials Engineering, Technion.

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 19:55:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]>
Subject: HyperCard Developers' List

In the previous Info-Mac digest, somebody asked about a HyperCard
developer list. To get on it, send a mail message to:

[e-mail] -or- [e-mail]

On the first line enter the command:

subscribe hypercrd <FirstName> <LastName>

To post to the list, send mail to:

[e-mail] -or- [e-mail]

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=  A n d r e w   V e r n o n  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
          [e-mail] | [e-mail]
 Between the Lines | Macintosh Association of the Capstone | DGIF #9691

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 12:08:09 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <[e-mail]>
Subject: hypercard developers list

Greetings,

>I have a good friend who would like to join a list for
>hypercard developers....  any suggestions???
>sorry if this is a FAQ...

There is a listserver list for HyperCard called HYPERCRD which is located on
LISTSERV@MSU for Bitnet or [e-mail] for Internet.  Send a note to the
listserver address with the following content:
SUBSCRIBE HYPERCRD <your name>
where <your name> is your real name, or at least the name you want to be known
by on the list, not your email name (and leave out the <>'s).

There is also a Netnews newsgroup, comp.sys.mac.hypercard, that is oriented to
HyperCard.

And, to plug one of my current hot projects, some of us are trying to
reinitialize the global HyperCard user group.  This effort is progressing.
                     <->
Bruce Carter, CBI Product Development                [e-mail]
Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             [phone]@phone

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 17:49:20 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: II vx >> Centris 650 (A)

Rich Caccavale writes:

>Does anyone know if the upgrade from a II vx to a centris 650 solves the
>16 bit databus problem?

    There isn't one. Of course, this makes sense since there is no 16
bit databus problem with the IIvx. The IIvx doesn't suffer from a 16-bit
data path like the LCII or the Classic II. The reason the IIvx isn't as
fast as everyone thought it would be is because the speed of the CPU,
Cache, and FPU is different from the speed of the logic board, 32mhz vs
16mhz.

>In other words, is it a full logic board replacement or a microprocessor
>upgrade?

    The IIvx -> C650 upgrade is a full logic board replacement, but I
haven't seen anything about the price of it yet.

>I am trying to afford a Centris 610 or a II vx in the near future, but I
>would also like upgradeability.  If the II vx can become a full 650,
>then it seems that it is more upgradeable than a 610.  As far as I can
>see, if the upgrade does not solve the data bus problem, the 040 wont
>make a great difference.

    Like is said, there is not data path problem with the IIvx, and the
upgrade is a full logic board replacement that turns your IIvx into a
C560.

>Unfortunately the 650 is out of the question in my immediate future
>since I will have to live on PBJ's for a year just to afford a II vx.
>All responses are appreciated and thanks in advance.

    Did you know that the C610 is rumored to be upgradable to one of the
new Cyclone-class Macs, with an on-board DSP?

-Hades

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 13:57:07 -0700
From: Dave Wagner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is this how you get a question into the info-mac digest?

Hopefully, this is the right thing to do.

Here's the question:

I've got a Powerbook 160.  The built-in video is supposed to support
VGA monitors.  Well, I tried it with a datashow-type device that
someone in my department has, which is IBM-compatible, and nothin'
doing.  I can see images on the screen, but the vertical sync seems
to be completely out of whack.

Now, when I go to the "monitors" control panel and hit the "Options"
button, I'm presented with a list of one item:  Macintosh Hi-Res RGB.
It seems to me that there ought to be more than one item in that list.
Is there some resource or something that my system file is missing
that I need to get a VGA monitor to work properly?

Any help would be appreciated;  PC-to-video devices are a lot more
common than Mac-to-video devices.

        Dave Wagner
        U. of CO, Boulder

------------------------------

Date: 18 Mar 1993 12:10:02 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas Daniel Boyle)
Subject: Japanese Word Processor???

[e-mail] writes:

>Hi!

>I am looking for a Japanese Word Processor for the Mac.
>Does anybody know where I can find one or where I can get more
>info???

>Thanks in advance.....

>Andrew.

How about using system 7.1's world script Japanese and MS WORD 5.xx or
Teachtext or any other text editor... i've been using them for 4 months now!!
(prints good too.. esp. when you have 6 japanese fonts 2 play with)

    regards
        Nicholas Boyle


--
-=========== Email: Nicholas Boyle [e-mail] ===========-
-=== Acting Media Officer, Wollongong University Simulation Games Society ==-

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Date: 17 Mar 1993 22:16:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Condo <[e-mail]>
Subject: K&R C book

[e-mail] (Eric H Seale) writes:

>Personally, I'd skip K&R (this just documents "classic C" --
>you should probably be more modern and learn "ANSI C" unless
>you are of a historic bent).

Actually, the second edition covers ANSI C. Here's the reference:

Kernighan, B. W. & Ritchie, D. M. (1988). The C programming language, second
edition. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: PTR Prentice Hall. [ISBN 0-13-110362-8
(paperback), 0-13-110370-9]

Fred Condo + [e-mail] + [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 17:08:29 -0800
From: [e-mail] (David Dantowitz)
Subject: Looking for NCSA/BYU Telnet Sources for THINK C

Title says it all.

Does anyone hav the BYU ftp address for THINK C Source?

Thanks,
    David

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 02:10:59 PST
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Main)
Subject: Macintosh in Taiwan?

I'm disappointed to learn from the "world-wide-ftp-sites" report
that there are few sites indeed outside this continent.  I am
interested in learning what if any sort of Macintosh community
there is in Taiwan.  I'm planning to spend a year there and
wonder whether I need to drag my IIfx along with me.  I'd rather
get something cheap to work on while I'm there but have no idea
what the availability/resale-ability of Mac products is like
there.  If anyone has a bought or used a Mac in Taiwan or
can direct me to a email, BBS, or ftp site where I could get
information, please drop me a line:

Greg Main
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 06:30:37 -0600
From: [e-mail] (John Norstad)
Subject: MacTCP no Local/Ether Talk Icon, Can't fix it

Bruce Goldstein writes:

>MacTCP is the program from ****.  MacTCP will not work, and when configuring
>it rather than seeing a choice of Local/EtherTalk and Ethernet, I see only
>a choice of Ethernet.  I had this problem once before, and tried rebuilding
>the desktop, reinstalling MacTCP, reinstalling the whole System 7, etc.  None
>of these things fixed it, but zapping the PRAM fixed it for some reason.
>
>Now, on another machine (lots of people ask me for help on MacTCP) I have the
>same symptomn as before (no Local/Ether Talk Icon).  I have tried all of the
>above and none of them fix it.  I have tried booting with all extensions off
>except those needed for MacTCP.  Does anyone have any idea what the cause of
>this problem is and how it can be fixed??  Oh, besides the above items I have
>done the obvious things like verify that there are no duplicate addresses
>on the ethernet, made sure AppleTalk is turned on in the chooser, and used
>EtherPeek to verify that I have a working Ethernet card and network
>connection.\HELP!!!!!!

The problem was fixed in MacTCP 1.1.1. Get the new version.

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
[e-mail]

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Date: 18 Mar 93 19:33 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Winehouse Computer, Paul Kent,ACR)
Subject: Mactivity Conference Agenda

=======Mactivity'93: The Macintosh Connectivity Conference=========
================Conference Session Information======================

Here is the conference agenda for Mactivity'93: The Macintosh Connectivity
Conference, to be held June 29-July 1, 1993 at the San Jose (CA) Convention
Center. Over 7,000 Macintosh and AppleTalk networking professionals will be in
attendance. Over 100 exhibitors will be displaying the latest connectivity
solutions in our exhibit hall.

For Additional Information and to Get Your Free Brochures Contact or Refer to
the document called Mactivity Information.
Winehouse Computer Company
20 N Santa Avenue
Los Gatos, CA  95030
[phone]
Fax [phone]
AppleLink = MACTIVITY
Internet = [e-mail]
AOL = Mactivity
Compuserve = 76570,2755


Over the past few years we've developed a great reputation for putting on a
conference that has a high Signal-to-noise ratio and for creating an
environment condusive to learning from instructors and exchanging ideas with
fellow attendees. This year's conference carries on that tradition. Here's the
session listing:
==============
Keynote Addresses:

Putting Collaborative Computing to Work
Gursharan Sidhu, Technical Director Collaborative Systems Development, Apple
Computer, Inc.

Challenges in Mobile Communications
Gaston Bastiens, VP & General Manager PIE Division, Apple Computer

Networking Trends and Technologies
Bill Hancock, Network Consultant and Author

Network Management Track:
Managing the Mobile Office
Network War Stories
Mac Client Security Issues and Solutions
Implementing a Network Architecture
The 1993 Network Managers Forum
Firewalls and Router Security
Pro-Active Macintosh Network Management
Designing a Network Help Desk

Integration Track:
Implementing AppleTalk over SMDS
Macintosh to Windows Integration Solutions
Integrating Macs into IBM Host Environments
Wireless LAN Technologies for the Mac
Platform Review: Mac Client Services in the Netware Environment
Mac to IBM AS400 Integration Techniques
Integrating News and Information Services for Mac Networks
The Mac and Open Network Systems

Emerging Technology Track:
PDA's: What they mean to your Network
Inside AOCE
The Enterprise ToolBox
Mac-Based Telephony
Inside AURP and the Apple Internet Router
Popping the hood on the Apple Workgroup Servers
Mac-based Video Conferenceing Solutions

Strategic Directions Track:
AppleTalk Update
Mactivity Executive Forum - Industry Leaders Discuss Cross Platform Computing
What Groupware Became
VITAL Update
Remote Access Protocol Direction
ATM and The Macintosh

Tips and Techniques Track:
A New Technique for Network Documentation
WANs for Small Workgroups
Document Management: Technology for the 1990s
Free Solutions for MAc to TCP/IP Connectivity
E-Mail to the MAx
Managing Appleshare REmotely
Ask the Experts - The Ultimate Tech Support Session

Primers Track: Special Sessions for those new to networking
Understanding Network Wiring
Networking with System 7
Fundamentals of AppleTalk Network System
AppleTalk Protocol Basics
Introduction to Wide Area Networking Technologies
All About Modems

Special Sessions:
Face to Face with Apple Computer
AppleTalk Networking Forum Meeting
Apple Network Managers Association Meeting

Full Day Tutorials (Monday, June 28):
Basics of Macintosh Networking - Beginner
AppleTalk Troubleshooting and Packet Analysis - Advanced
Backup strategies for network servers - Beginner/Intermediate
AppleTalk Design and Implementation -  Intermediate
AppleTalk Network Management in Enterprise Environments - Advanced
Mac to VAX/VMS Connectivity - Advanced
Mac to Unix-TCP/IP Networking - Intermediate


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 09:43 EST
From: Adam Zucker <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacWeek

I have been looking for either an address or customer service/subscription
phone number for the publication MacWeek.  Can anyone provide this
information.
Also, I have heard that some people qualify for free subscriptions.  Is this
true? If so, what is the criteria?

Thanks, Adam Zucker, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 07:55:52 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (Matthew T. Schomer)
Subject: MacWhiteHouse?

Just heard something from a friend, and wanted to check it out here:

Did the White House redo their computer system, upgrading to Apple?
Who has info on this??? Is it true that Clinton could have a Mac on his desk?

I think I saw Apple's CEO at one of the inaguaral parties on TV now that
Im thinking of it.

wow!

ts

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 03:54:10 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Nick B Triantos)
Subject: MacWrite Pro IS SHIPPING NOW!!!

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
writes:

>I figured it was really happening when I saw one of those big, fat, glossy,
>beautifully printed books in the bookstore today with the title "Using
>MacWrite Pro." (Don't know if the author used MacWrite Pro to write the
book.
>I think that's an important test.) Quite a bit was said about the table
>feature, nothing about the rumored outlining feature. The press release
didn't
>mention that either (or did I miss it?)

Well, I would have to doubt that the author used MacWrite Pro to write the
book, since it wasn't very stable until some nasty bugs were fixed within
the past few months  ;-).  But, the most likely reason why the outliner
wasn't mentioned is that it doesn't exist right now.  The AddIt feature
provides an interface that will allow the outliner to be added in, if any
developers do it.  Best as I know, though, no such beast will ship with
1.0v1.

The table feature is really nice, if not a little bit slow on older
machines.  But overall I find the performance to be quite nice (a lot better
than a more popular product that rhymes with Turd).  MacWrite Pro has really
neat control over the text frames, letting you do cool stuff like wrapping
text around graphics, plus some other neat-o things that I really do think
will make it a bigger hit than many people expect... We'll have to see, I
guess.

Look for me next time you call Tech Support,

-Nick "I like Resolve.  I like Resolve." T.

Nick Triantos                     Avoid bus errors... Take the train!
If I seem biased toward Claris, I am.  I work there, and I love it!
Claris takes no responsibility for what I do in the wonderful world of
Internet, though.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 07:25:13 PST
From: "Peter Jorgensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mail for Mac 1.1b Warning!

Received: from COLGATEU.BITNET by COLGATEU.BITNET (PMDF #3157 ) id
 <[e-mail]>; Thu, 18 Mar 1993 09:28:17 EDT
Date: 18 Mar 1993 09:28:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Jorgensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mail for Mac 1.1b Warning!
To: INFOMAC: ;
Message-id: <[e-mail]>
X-Envelope-to: [e-mail]
X-VMS-To: in%infomac
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Greetings,

We are generally very happy with Pathworks for the Macintosh from Digital
Equipment Corp. However, their latest version of Mail for Macintosh (1.1b),
which is required under System 7.1 has a very bothersome design flaw. I've
heard that this version was "rushed out" to provide System 7.1 compatibility,
and I believe it! Apparently the developers didn't bother to try their program
out on a system with two monitors, like mine. The problem is, all new windows,
i.e. windows for new memos, windows for messages that you read, replies,
forwards, etc. open up so that they overlap the two displays. Like this:

             ____________
            | Portrait   |
            | Display    | ____________
            |            ||  13" RGB   |
            |     _______||__          |
            |    |       ||  |         |
            |    |  Mail ||  |         |
            |    |       ||  |         |
            |    |_______||__|         |
            |            ||____________|
            |____________|


EVERY window must be moved to be read/editted, etc. This is more than a
nuisance, it makes the program almost worthless when you have a lot of email,
as I do.

My Advice: DON'T INSTALL MAIL FOR MACINTOSH 1.1b. Of course, you have no
choice if you upgrade to System 7.1 because the earlier version of Mail for
Macintosh crashes under 7.1. Nice going, DEC.

BTW, they still didn't get the arrowkey right, i.e. pressing the down arrow
key will not take you to the end of the last line unless it happens to be to
the left of the insertion point. And there is still no convenient way to move
>From the "Subject" field to the body of the message. And when you come back
to
a message you were editing, the insertion point is always at the end of the
"Subject" field, instead of where you left it. I wouldn't be so upset, except
their DOS mail product doesn't seem to suffer from any of this kind of sloppy
programming.

Peter Jorgensen - Colgate University Research & Instructional Computing Spec.
        - Mac/DOS/VMS consultant, PMDF Postmaster, HyperTalker

------------------------------

Date: 18 Mar 1993 12:11:03 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas Daniel Boyle)
Subject: modem use in japan

>Does anybody out there have practical experience with using a modem in
Japan?
>I will be staying in Japan for three months and want to use my powerbook
>160 with a global village internal modem on the Japanese phone system.
>Will it work or do I need to purchase a modem in Japan?
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Steve Lee, Carnegie Mellon, [e-mail]

no worries there I think (as long as your power supply can take the 110-220
volts and the 50-60 Hz ranges depending on where you are in Japan)

You will need a japanese term prog in order to access and japanese bbs..
I have ftped NinjaTerm B4 .. i dunno if u can get it still... try Osaka uni

    Regards
        Nicholas Boyle
--
-=========== Email: Nicholas Boyle [e-mail] ===========-
-=== Acting Media Officer, Wollongong University Simulation Games Society ==-

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:58:48 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Johan Swahn)
Subject: NuBus card for E-Machines Z-21 screen needed

We have an E-Machines Z-21 screen on an SE with a Z-21 SE board. We now
want to change the computer but keep the screen. E-Machines used to sell a
NuBus board for the Z-21 screen but are no longer selling these. Is there
anyone who can help us out and sell us their card?

Johan Swahn ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:31:17 EST
From: Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Nutek Clones (C)

Travis> Even if NuTek's prices ARE lower (and I don't think they'll be
Travis> substancially lower), I'm still not going to jump for one. I'm
Travis> going to stick with the proven machine from the proven company-
Travis> Apple. What are others opinions on the subject?

My opinion is that Nutek is dead before it starts.  They can forget
about
compatibility.  Different macs are not even 100% compatible with
each other!  And the prices on Apple hardware is much better now.  The
LC III is a great machine for a great price.  What I am praying to see
is the FTC slicing up Microsoft into itty-bitty pieces and for IBM
to proclaim DOS is dead.  This intel/windows junk is like a blight
on the whole computer industry.  I know monopolies are bad, but some-
thing sure can be said for standards.  I was installing a PC program
the other day and there was 6 different graphic standards, 10 kinds
of mice, 5 memory config options, and hundreds of print drivers.  The
entire concept of "this gives you more control and is therefore better"
is ludicrous.  All I am seeing is more confusion.  Apple does charge a
premium for its products, but always remember this -- clone makers
do not have R&D budgets.  Clones= confusion and no innovation.

Excel is currently the only thing keeping my mac from being a MFZ.

MFZ= Microsoft Free Zone.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 21:21:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bill Stewart-Cole)
Subject: NuTek Has Macintosh Clone Ready: Opinions?

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>Well well well, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer yesterday, NuTek,
>out of Cupertino, claims it has its "Macintosh Clone" ready to "Take a bite
>out of Apple" (as the article was titled). NuTek says its first "Duet"
>system, which will run IBM PC and Macintosh software is due out soon for
>$2996. What's Apple's response? The usual sue-and-die is coming, you can
>guarantee. Apple's legal dept. says that there is NO way that NuTek's
>machine is 100% clear, and that if it can run Macintosh software it
>obviously violates Apple's copyrights somewhere. NuTek claims it was done
>completely "in the cleanroom" and it does not infringe on Apple's
>copyright.
> The problem is that some say the NuTek machine may be able to run less
>than 60% of current Macintosh software...makes you kinda wonder, eh?

I'd love to see a primary source on this. From what you say, I feel vindicated
on qwhat I've been saying to clients and gee-whizzing fellow mac users about
Mac clones since the original PR miracle NuTek had back in early '91. (MW IMHO
was irresponsible and gullible in their cover and article, but that's a
different issue)

The thing to look for is what level of performance one gets out of a $3K
computer, relative to it's competition from real Macs. For that amount of
money, one can today (as in TODAY, not next month, next quarter, or an
undefined RSN) go out and get a pair of computers to run Mac and Dos for that
price, at 386 (or maybe 486) level for the DOS box and a LCIII (//ci
performance) for the Mac. No need to respond to that even with a lawsuit. Just
start bundling a full PC system with every LCIII or Color Classic :) Of course
the other side of this is that if that's not enough Mac power and you can
sacrifice the DOS side a bit, the same $3K will get you a C650 and Soft-PC...

I happen to agree with Apple that any computer that can run every piece of Mac
software (even every application, never mind INITs and such) must be in
violation of Apple's proprietary rights. So much application software makes
(perfectly legitimate, if dangerous) use of unsupported 'reserved for Apple'
and 'subject to change' stuff that is part of the Apple intellectual domain
that there is no way for a cloner to duplicate the real Mac behavior without
looking closely at precisely what Apple is doig, and hence running into the
reverse-engineering limits. If on the other hand NuTek has stayed inbounds
legally (including the pitfalls of trying to run a computer maker in Cupertino
without employing anyone involved past or present with Apple) I think the 60%
compatibility level is a likely outcome, and will kill the machine totally, as
if the price considderations weren't enough.

The central problem is that NuTek started late. If they had started early
enough in the long period of purely incremental changes in hardware and 6.0.x
system software, MAYBE they could have outrun Apple and beat them on price.
Instead they have been trying to outrun a newly speed-crazed Apple that has
been intent on wiping out the price differential and the percieved performance
differential with DOS systems. As a result we have things like a //ci
equivalent selling below the educational price of a Mac Plus 4 years ago...
and
at least 3 common system software versions, two of which represent huge
advances over what NuTek could have legally been considering back when they
first started talking to the press. Mysuspicion is that what NuTek will offer
is a System 6-equivalent Mac with serious compatibility problems and a host of
caveats, not to mention a likely severe performance problem when compared to
real macs in the same price range. If they could sell such a creature in the
same price range as a LCIII, maybe they'd have a shot, but I can't see much
hope for selling anyone on a $3k Mac that isn't a real speed demon
(Quadra-class) and fully compatible.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:09:00 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: NuTek Has Macintosh Clone Ready: Opinions? (A)

[e-mail] (Travis Grundke) writes:

>  Okay, here's my perspective on the issue. Lets say that by
> some freak of nature NuTek can release their machine. First
> of all, you've only got 60-60% compatibility with current software.

My understanding is they claim to work with almost everything,
except Microsoft, and they claim they will add Microsoft by the
end of the year.

> You can also forget
> things like QuickDraw/GX, QuickTime, OCE, AppleEvents, ad infinitum.
> Why? Because they all require ROM calls and rumour has it that
> many of these items will become a part of ROM later this year.

Well, Apple can put these things into ROM on machines released later
this year, but they're not in ROM on any Mac existing today.  If Apple
expects any existing Mac user to use them, it will have to release it
as an extension or part of the system file.  Which is, of course,
exactly how they have handled QuickTime and 32-bit QuickDraw (for Macs
before the IIci), and how they reportedly will handle QuickDraw GX.



------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:41:15 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Casgrain Philippe)
Subject: PB 165c vs. PB 180 display (C)

Dont forget that you are asking for great, desktop-quality color on
a _laptop_ computer :-}

Seriously, there is the same number of pixels ("real estate") on both
screens.
The 165's is smaller, but it packs more dpi (not a great solution, but...).

Also, the 165's battery life is shorter than the 180 when used in 256-color
mode
and the 165 is a tad heavier (7.0 vs 6.8 pounds).

Virtually,
Philippe     [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 16:27:44 MST
From: [e-mail] (Stephen C. Harmony)
Subject: PostScript -> EPSF (A)

> Would somebody explain to me what is the difference between raw
> PostScript, and Encapsulated PS. I want to include figures into
> a TeX document, and this requires EPSF files, this is fine if i
> produce the figures myself, but i have some in raw PS, and i need
> to know how to encapsulate them, perhaps there is already something
> to do this, but i could not find it easily.

Books, ISBN 0-89588-566-2), an EPS file requires the following comments added
to
the header:

%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-1.2
%%BoundingBox: llx lly urx ury

where llx, lly defines the lower left corner and urx, ury defines the upper
right corner, all in default PostScript coordinates.

That's all that is required. On a Mac, the EPS file is just a regular text
file
with an added PICT resource that contains the screen image as a 72 dpi bit
map.
The Mac file type for an EPS file is EPSF. As long as you don't need to have
the
screen image displayed in your TeX preview, you shouldn't need the PICT
resource
at all.

The EPS file should not use any of these operators:

banddevice   initclip      renderbands
copypage     initgraphics  setdevice
erasepage    initmatrix    setmatrix
sxitserver   note          setpageparms
framedevice  nulldevice    setscreen
grestoreall  quit          settransfer

In addition, the showpage operator will present problems, but Holzgang says it
is the destination application's responsibility to disable showpage, rather
than
the source application's responsibility to avoid using the operator.

Steve Harmony
Los Alamos, NM

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 13:32:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Reinstalling Network device driver

I'm getting desperate here and I hope someone out there can help or enlighten
me.
I have a MacIIsi that I recently zapped the PRAM on.  After the Zap the
network device
driver nolonger worked.  When I go to the Control Panel and Select the Network
Icon
the following message comes back:


        "The Network software has not been intalled correctly.  Be
        sure
          to use the installer and then restart"

I have reinstalled the ethernet driver software and the system software with
no
change.

This is a MacIIsi with a NuBus adapter card which has a ColorLink II interface
card
attached to it ( the colorlink card has interfaces to a 16" E-Machines color
monitor
and to Ethernet).  It is running system 7.0.1 tune-up 1.1.1.  This machine was
working
in this configuration I just can't seem to get the network driver
reinstalled.  I have
had this problem on other machines in the passed and after several tries
eventually
was able to reintall the driver.  There seems to be no consistant way to do
it.
Does anyone have any clues, advice or solutions?  Please E-Mail me directly or
cc:
me on what you send to the digest, I will summarize if there is any interest.

Thanks a heap.

Lisa Besko
MSU/NSCL

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 15:31:01 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Shareware/freeware fonts

In the March/April 1993 issue of Aldus Magazine, there is a sidebar about
shareware/freeware fonts, all available on CompuServe. I'm not tied into
CompuServe, so I checked the Sumex archives for the fonts I liked - to no
avail. Could someone get them off CompuServe and post them here or directly to
me? I'm especially interested in Comics CarToon by Pat Snyder, Eraser Dust,
Pixie Font, Rabbit Ears, Showboat, and Tribeca, all by David Rakowski. (Or
maybe someone can tell me how to get in touch with David Rakowski.) Thanks for
your help in advance.

Norm Weiner
State University of New York
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 07:50:13 PST
From: Paul Brians <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shiftlock/mouse button problem clue (A?)

After writing about the mysterious tendency of my IIsi sometimes to
have two problems: refusing to get out of "caps lock" mode and refusing
to move ihe insertion point, I realized the next time it happened that
the two problems are one and the same.  The cursor isn't moving because
every attempt to click elsewhere is being treated as a "shift-click."
So that eliminates the mouse as the culprit.  Either the shift or the
caps lock key on Mac must be getting stuck.  I hit both of them
vigorously several times, and the problem went away!  So there must be
some corrosion/gunk on one of them.  Evidently the pressure of exposing
my ignorance in public made a stuck synapse fire in my brain.

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 00:26:24 EST
From: [e-mail] (Eric W. Davies)
Subject: status of System 7 compatible driver for Apple 8.24 video card

I don't actually own one of these, but someone I know does and they have
just upgraded their IIfx to System 7.1.  Needless to say, they've
experienced some video problems since doing so.  I can't remember the
details, but as I recall, there was some issue about Apple not releasing
a 32-bit clean driver for the 8.24 video card.  Is that correct?  Can
anyone refresh my memory as to how/if this issue was resolved?  If
there is a patch/new driver available, can anyone point me to an FTP
site that might have it?  Thanks a lot.

Eric Davies
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:45:41 PST
From: [e-mail] (David Ray)
Subject: Stylewriter II driver - where to get it

Since my posting yesterday to sumex-aim, my mailbox has been deluged with
messages asking where to get the SWII driver. I got my copy from my housemate
who just bought a SWII, but I have been unable to find out whether it is
legal for me to copy it from her. If it is not legal to copy it, I will
gladly discard my copy. Until I can find out the legalities of distributing
copies of the driver, I cannot send anybody the driver or post it to
sumex-aim.
   The SWII driver also requires a new version of the Chooser, which works
with system 7.0.1 or 7.1 only (not system 6). The new SWII driver and Chooser
are included with a purchase of the SWII, or with System 7.1, which is
pay-ware. I would really like to help everybody out, but cannot do so unless
I get clear permission.
   I recommend that anybody wanting the SWII driver should send e-mail to
apple and request it. Let their mailbox be deluged with messages.

-Dave

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 13:16:33 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Dieder B.)
Subject: Stylewriter II install problems 6.0.8

I know the SW II can be installed under a system using 6.0.8, but I can't
get it to work properly...could an SW II owner give me a shout and tell me
what I am doing wrong? Thanks. D.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 15:40:18 -0600
From: Neil Eric Mickelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: SuperATM Offer

Hello again!

I recently ordered the SuperATM upgrade offer, having just received my Apple/
Adobe Offer copy of ATM 3.0.  Since I didn't receive the Times, Helvetica,
Courier, and Symbol families with my copy of ATM, I was wondering if those
fonts come with the SuperATM package unlocked and ready to use.  If not, I'll
order the "Standard 13" package from Adobe with the offer I just received with
ATM, I guess...

Thanks for your help!

Neil E. Mickelson
[e-mail]

P.S.  Wouldn't it be easier if everyone just cut their prices, and stopped
this
    offer after offer type of stuff?

------------------------------

Date: 18 Mar 1993 17:29:05 CST
From: "Harry Hahn"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: SuperBoomerang 4.01p bootup problem (Q)

(This is my first post so please excuse me if I'm doing something
wrong)

Charles C. Hsieh ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Sometimes at boot-up time, my IIci freezes up at SuperBoomerang
>4.01p.  After I press the hardware reset, Startup Manager offers to
>turn off SuperBoomerang, but I turn it back on and then this time
>SuperBoomerang loads fine.  This happens periodically.  Not a vital
>problem, but annoying.
>
> I'm using System 7.01 with the latest tune-up.  True, I have more
>than 2 rolls of extensions, but conflict can't be the problem as
>this problem happens periodically with no observable pattern.

I have this same problem on a pb165c running 7.1 and a gang of
extensions and a co-worker has had the same problem on both his IIsi
and IIci. What I don't get is why it would crash the first time and
not the second. What happens differently the second time?
Re-installing all of the Now Utilities from the master disks didn't
help and I don't think it's a conflict per se since SB crashes even
if it's the first INIT to load (well, after Disinfectant, Now
Toolbox, and Startup Manager).

And here's where it get's really weird: I stopped using
StartupScreens and I haven't had SB crash like that since. What
gives?

I guess giving up StartupScreens is a small price to pay for not
crashing but I'd still like to find a solution. This problem was
occurring at almost every startup for me and since I have a
powerbook, I have to take a bent staple, pull down the monitor, and
poke in the little restart hole. Quite a hassle.

I don't know: maybe it's a Wisconsin thing  :-).

Peace,
Harry Hahn

------------------------------

Date: 18 Mar 1993 14:52:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SuperDrive Problem

Hi, Netters:

My friend have a problem in his IICi diskdrive. This IICi fail format Mac
disk.
It begins to format disk like normal, but quit the job during creating
Directory process, telling you the format is failed. However, if you install
PCexchange, it can format PC disk without any problem. Does anyone else ever
meet this kind problem? This IICi is about one year old. Welcome any
comments.

Hong Wang

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:48:10 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Marc Dionne)
Subject: Tape backup system 4mm

Have your heard of Tape backup system 4mm.  Is it available for Macintosh
and if it is whis is the price.
Marc Dionne                                 Email: [e-mail]
Universite du Quebec a Trois-Rivieres            Tel: [phone], ext 2419
C.P. 500, Trois-Rivieres, Qc, Canada / G9A 5H7   Fax: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 20:12:25 EST
From: Bob Crawford <[e-mail]>
Subject: text format for e-mail (Q)

Greetings.  When writing off-line to copy-&-paste into an
e-mail message, what formatting should be applied to avoid a
bunch of jumped (long, then short) lines in the text?  I cannot
locate a previous mention of this in the Digest, but it was a
while back.
Thanks.

Bob Crawford

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:11:11 CHT
From: [e-mail] (Patricio Mason)
Subject: Translation software for the Mac

I am aware of the existence of translation software for PCs, but I don't
seem to have ever come across an equivalent for the Mac.  Is there anybody
out there who knows if such animal exists?
If so, where?  What languages?  Experiences?

Please reply directly to me, and I'll summarize to the list depending on
response.  Thanks in advance.







Patricio Mason
[e-mail]
Santiago, Chile

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 09:08:40 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Rocky Olive)
Subject: vi

Anyone know of a free- or shareware vi editor that runs under System 7.x?

Rocky Olive <[e-mail]>       [phone]
Data General Corporation              fax: [phone]
Apex, NC  27502    USA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:10:52 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Joshua Yeidel)
Subject: Word 5.0 -- Text With Layout Won't Accept PointSize Setting

Any Word mavens out there may know the key to this one:

I want to use Word to view some text-only files.  The 12-point
default pointsize is too big, so I went into the "MS Word
Conversion Options" file and changed the "Text With Layout Converter"
options to read "Pointsize=10".  (Yes, I saved the file as "text-only",
and no, there are no other MS Word Conversion Options" files on the
disk.)

After closing and reopening Word, however, documents opened with
Text With Layout are still in 12-point.

Any ideas?

-- Joshua

------------------------------

Date: 18 Mar 1993 12:08:39 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas Daniel Boyle)
Subject: World Scripts - WHEN?!?!?!?

>What are Apple playing at with this "System 7.1 World Ready" crap?

>I would really love to have a switchable english/spanish system - so where
>is it? I got International 7.1 from the  d e v e l o p  CD but it's not
>there.
>Just how long are Apple going to take to get these 'world scripts' out here?

    Well let's see you build one from scratch in 6 months... Apple are
obviously targeting the Japanese and other asian markets first as there is a
HUGE demand for anything that works in those countries....
    Once they're off the ground then I suspect that they will work out
who is the next target... whether it is spanish or not who knows....
until then you and the rest of the non-english speaking countries will just
have to sit and wait

>Somone on comp.sys.mac.system was just saying that all his Chinese
compatriots
>are giving up on the Mac for Windows Chinese 3.1 or whatever it's called.

    Let me ask you a question. How many chinese living in China would be
able to afford a mac??? For those outside the work is already half done
because
the japanese writing system and the chinese writing system are similar...
(NOTE: that they both are 2bye fonts.... and that some chinese can read small
amounts of japanese...)

    just my $0.02 worth
        Nicholas Boyle

P.S. does anyone know what apple is working on now and the ETOA of the beta
product????


--
-=========== Email: Nicholas Boyle [e-mail] ===========-
-=== Acting Media Officer, Wollongong University Simulation Games Society ==-

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 09:17:38 EST
From: [e-mail] (Rick Haubenstricker)
Subject: Xferit and Steven Falkenburg

Does anyone know if Steven Falkenburg is still supporting Xferit?  We
(Envronmental Research Institute of Michigan) sent a check for $45.00
to him for a workgroup license for Xferit on 28-Jan-93.  I have yet to
hear anything from Mr. Falkenburg.  I have sent him two follow-up mail
messages, and have not heard any reply from those either.  Does he still
exist?  Does anyone at Apple know of his whereabouts?  I say that, because
his e-mail address is [e-mail].  Any information would be
appreciated.  We are anxious to get our registration number for the
software.

thanks, Rick  ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed Mar 17 17:48:08 1993
From: [e-mail] (Mike Crane)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: cranem
From: [e-mail] (Mike Crane)
Subject: Re: [*] IconWrap 1.2
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 23:47:45 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Lines: 17

[e-mail] writes:
>On Sat, 13 Mar 93 20:15:13 CST <[e-mail]> said:
>> I seem to remember seeing a reference to a utility that will wrap
>> startup icons to multiple rows if there are too many to fit on one
>> line.  Does such a beast exist?  If so, what is it and where can I
>> find it?
>This is the second request for such an extension in as many weeks.
>Here's something that does what you ask: IconWrap 1.2.

And as a side note, I've noticed that System 7.1 on my Mac does this
without the help of IconWrap.  Just one less extension I have to worry
about...
--
Mike Crane     GEnie: M.CRANE   America Online: MIKE566
Internet: [e-mail], [e-mail],
      [e-mail], [e-mail]
"Who needs drugs...we've got UNIX!" - Me

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 14:35:16 GMT
From: [e-mail]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest,comp.sys.mac.misc
Path: henry
From: [e-mail] (Henry Bloomfield)
Subject: Importing US Macs to UK: Info wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: import, prices, customs
Sender: [e-mail] (Usenet News System)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 14:35:03 GMT

The educational prices for Macs in the UK (including VAT) are:

Colour Classic     about  840 pounds (1218 dollars)
LCIII              about 1080 pounds (1566 dollars)

1. Am I right in thinking these are substantially more than the
US prices?

2. If I were to buy a Mac in the US and bring it back, or get
a friend in the US to ship one to me, what would I have to pay
in terms of customs duty/ VAT/ etc., either at the US or UK
ends? (Supplementary question: Does anyone have any material on
the regulations surrounding the import of computers?)

3. Does anyone have any experience of doing this?

4. Are there any Macs now on sale that *don't* have the power
supplies that work (almost) anywhere in the world?

Replies here or to me by email please. If there are lots, and
it seems a fruitful topic, I'll summarise.

thanks,

Henry Bloomfield
--
      HCI Group, CS Dept, QMW, Mile End Rd, London E1 4NS

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 16:52:12 GMT
From: Yoram Ney <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups:
comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.digest,connect.audit
Path: yoram
From: [e-mail] (Yoram Ney)
Subject: Adequate Mac Text-Processor Needed
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Distribution: connect
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:52:04 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Yoram Ney)

This is probably a FAQ in programmers circles, but I found no RECENT reference
to it in info-mac archives:

-- FAQ on --

What is a good, solid text processor for the Mac? I mean something of OUR
times not something like Vantage 1.6.1 that was last updated just before the
dynosaurs vanished.


-- FAQ off --     (<------  This is a shear coincidence).


Background: I've just sent back a money-back-guarantied Vantage 1.6.1.,
mainly (but not only) because of a virtually customer-insulting macro
language, and crashes.


Anyone using Qued 2.5? - How is it?? How does it compare to Vantage
featurewise.

Also a friend told me to 'cut the crap' and get MPW, because it's
a better deal than Think C, and the best Mac text processor to date.
any comments?? (Qued wasn't 2.5 then though).


Please reply (or send a copy of your net reply) directly to my mailbox, -
and I'll summarise.

Thanks in advance

Yoram

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